INTERVIEWS WITH ECONOMISTS


An interview with the Reserve Bank of Australia, conducted by Professor John Taylor

Professor John Taylor interviewed David Gruen (Head, Economic Research Department, Reserve Bank of Australia) in September 1999.

Can you describe how the members of the Reserve Bank Board reach a decision about whether to raise the interest rate (the cash rate)? Do they get advice from economists? Do they take a vote? Is there typically much disagreement? How much knowledge of economics do they need to make good decisions? Is it much more than in a first-year economics course?

Before each meeting, the members of the Reserve Bank Board receive written economic analyses, prepared by the Reserve Bank staff, about developments in the domestic and foreign economies, and in financial markets. This analysis also includes the Bank's recommendation concerning interest rates; that is, whether the cash rate should be moved and, if so, by how much. At each meeting, the Board also receives verbal presentations from senior Bank staff. The Board discusses the evidence, the outlook, and the recommendation. The discussion is wide-ranging, with different views canvassed. There is sometimes disagreement among members, but the aim is to reach consensus. A vote is rarely taken.

Members bring a range of skills and experience to the Board. Many members, though not the majority, have formal training in economics. Whether or not they are trained economists, they all have access to economic analysis, both from the Bank and from outside sources.

The Reserve Bank seems to increase the 'cash rate' when the inflation rate rises. For example, in 1994 the Reserve Bank raised the cash rate by nearly 3 percentage points from 4.75 per cent to 7.5 per cent as the inflation rate rose. Is this a typical reaction of the Reserve Bank to inflation? Can we expect the Reserve Bank to increase the cash rate by this amount if inflation rises in the future as it did in 1995?

The Bank aims to pre-empt changes in inflation. When inflation is expected to rise above the medium-term target of 2 to 3 per cent, policy is tightened to reduce the extent of the rise, and ensure that it is temporary. (The same comment applies, with signs reversed, when inflation is expected to fall below the medium-term target.) The aim is not, however, to eliminate all variability in inflation, because the Bank also seeks to reduce fluctuations in output, to the extent possible without compromising the medium-term inflation target.

It should be noted that it is the outlooks for inflation and economic activity that matter, not their current values. Of course, this outlook is informed, to a considerable extent, by assessments about the current state of both prices and output. In 1994, the cash rate was raised to 7.5 per cent because inflation was expected to rise above 3 per cent. The interest rate increases occurred before inflation actually rose. In the event, underlying inflation did rise above 3 per cent in 1995, but only temporarily.

The reaction of the Reserve Bank will be similar in future, in the sense that the medium-term inflation target is the guiding principle for the Bank's monetary policy, as it was in 1994. If at some time in the future, with an unchanged cash rate, inflation is expected to rise above the target, then policy will be tightened. The magnitude of the tightening would depend on judgements at the time about what was appropriate.

The Reserve Bank cut the cash rate from 7.5 per cent in 1996 to 4.75 per cent at the end of 1998. To what extent were these cuts due to a decline in the inflation rate and to what extent were they due to other events such as the international financial crisis? What effect did this decrease in the interest rate have on the economy and the exchange rate?

The cuts in the cash rate were primarily due to a changing outlook for inflation. The first cut, from 7.5 per cent to 7, occurred in July 1996, when the latest reading of year-ended underlying inflation was just above 3 per cent. The Bank judged, however, that inflationary pressures were abating, and eased monetary policy. The rate of underlying inflation did subsequently fall, and the Bank continued to ease policy so that, by the end of July 1997, the cash rate stood at 5 per cent.

Most of the easing, therefore, occurred before the severity of the Asian financial crisis became apparent. (The crisis began in mid-1997, and gathered intensity through the second half of 1997 and into 1998.) A range of evidence, including research conducted at the Bank, suggests that changes in the cash rate have a material effect on economic growth for, perhaps, two to three years. Most likely, therefore, the easings in 1996 and 1997 allowed the economy to sustain more rapid growth in the two years after the onset of the crisis than would otherwise have been possible.

One would presume that the lower cash rate would also have been associated with some depreciation of the exchange rate. Over this period, however, movements in the exchange rate appear to have been dominated by the unfolding crisis in Asia. One piece of evidence supporting this view is that the Australian and New Zealand currencies behaved very similarly in the two years following the onset of the crisis, despite significant differences in monetary policy settings in the two countries over that time.

The inflation rate in Australia has been much lower and much steadier since the Reserve Bank adopted inflation targets. Are the targets the main reason for the better inflation performance?


The inflation target is one of the reasons for the better performance. But it is probably not the only reason. After all, inflation in the second half of the 1990s has been lower and more stable in almost all OECD countries, regardless of whether they are inflation targeters or not. How the alternative monetary-policy frameworks respond when a sizeable inflation shock comes along will be a much sterner test.

The inflation target should help to improve the stability of the macroeconomy if it helps focus inflationary expectations in the community on the target rate. The inflation target also provides a framework for monetary policy that combines some of the advantages of monetary-policy rules with some of the advantages of discretion. Furthermore, it focuses debate within the Reserve Bank on what policy can and should achieve, arguably leading to more coherent and consistent policy.

I would argue that the Australian inflation targeting framework has led to good monetary policy outcomes at three important stages of the current business cycle: when inflationary pressures were building in 1994, when they were subsiding in 1996–97, and during the Asian crisis, when Australia was hit by a significant external shock.

It is also of interest to note that the Australian inflation target was introduced after inflation fell to its current low levels, rather than beforehand as was the case in some other inflation-targeting countries. The Bank held to the view that the transitional output costs associated with creating a low-inflation environment would not have been materially affected had an inflation target been announced when inflation was still high. The then Governor, Bernie Fraser, expressed this view in a speech in 1993: 'to my knowledge, no country has reduced its inflation by incantation'.

In 1996 the Reserve Bank and the Government (1) stated that 'The Government recognises the independence of the Bank' and (2) described procedures which allow 'the Government to determine [monetary] policy in the event of a material difference'. How can the Reserve Bank be independent if the Government determines policy when there is a big difference in views? Are there any examples since 1996 where, in fact, the Government determined policy?

The two quotes in your question are from the Statement on the Conduct of Monetary Policy, issued jointly by the Australian Government and the Governor of the Reserve Bank in August 1996. The paragraph you quote goes on to provide an answer to your question.

'Section 11 of the Reserve Bank Act prescribes procedures for the resolution of policy differences between the Bank and the Government. The procedures, in effect, allow the Government to determine policy in the event of a material difference; but the procedures are politically demanding and their nature reinforces the Bank's independence.' In fact the procedures are so politically demanding that they have never been used.

At a general level, it is worth making the point that governments retain ultimate authority for monetary policy under most conceivable institutional arrangements in all countries. In countries with independent central banks, this independence is usually defined by an Act of Parliament. Most Acts contain some type of 'override' by the government in extreme circumstances. For example, in New Zealand and the UK, the government can raise or lower the inflation target. Even if this proviso were not available, the government of any such country could amend the Act, if it so chose. This is also the situation in Australia.

The decisions of the Reserve Bank have a big effect on people's lives. Higher interest rates make it more difficult to buy a home or a car. Changes in the cash rate also affect the price of stocks and foreign exchange. It is no wonder that every move you make is scrutinised in detail by newspapers and television. What is it like to have such great responsibility and to have your every move studied in detail by hundreds of journalists and then reported in newspapers the next day?


Being part of an institution responsible for making important economic decisions makes my job, and the jobs of those with whom I work, more interesting and rewarding. To the extent that I can contribute to a somewhat better understanding of aspects of policy or the functioning of the economy, that is all for the good. But I would not want to overstate my contribution. The responsibility for decisions on interest rates rests, of course, with the Governor and the Reserve Bank Board.

As an aside, let me quibble with a detail in your question. Australia is not such a large country that hundreds of journalists study the Reserve Bank's every move in detail. Tens of journalists, perhaps!


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